Tuesday, March 27, 2007

Who gets to be a good American?

I recieved this e-mail forwarded to me today. I read it, and responded, both are posted here.

It's crap like this that makes me think humanity survives on borrowed time.


"Can a good Muslim be a good American? "

I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.

The following is his reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of
Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except
Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam
and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns
in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends
with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders),
who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great
Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and
scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution
since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be
corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow
freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as
heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent
names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very
suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both
"good" Muslims and good Americans.

Call it what you wish....it's still the truth.

The war is bigger than we know or understand."



My reply

We've heard now whether Muslims can be "good Americans", now I ask this;

Can a Christian be a good American?

The following is my reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to God and Jesus, the sacrificial Lamb of God

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his God except
his own (1st Commandment)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the Bible.

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to after life and the Kingdom that will come, to which he alludes to in prayer more often than not.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Christianity forbids him to make friends
with Muslims or Jews, and even if he doesn't think he is forbidden from it, he looks down upon them, wishes them to "be saved" and will never accept them for who they are.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the evangelicals (spiritual leaders),
who teach annihilation of secular democracy and all those that do not believe as they do, sending all of them to burn in the fires of Hell with Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry only women and treat them as lesser beings than himself, raising his children to believe only as he does, and rejecting them if they do not comply.

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept reason as a source of information, but believes that only through revelation can truth be known, and since the American Constitution
since it is based on REASONABLE principles he cannot accept it and wishes to amend it to mention God and Jesus, which it does not.

Philosophically - no. Because Christianity, Jesus, and the Bible do not allow
freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Christianity co-exist only because secular people and moderate religious people demand it, while every fundamentally Christian government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because God is vengeful and wrathful, and only in modern times has He become thought of as Love, since the vengefulness and wrath were too unpalatable to the growing secular movements. He will rain His wrath down up the Sinners, damning each of them to burn in hell, and calling on all His followers to deny Sinners in this corporeal world as well.

Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very
suspicious of ALL CHRISTIANS in this country. They obviously cannot be both
"good" Christians and good Americans.

Call it what you wish....it's still the truth.

The war is bigger than we know or understand, especially bigger than Christians understand. I'm so profoundly sick of hearing crap like this "Can a good Muslim be a good American?" list , and it's even more disturbing that it was sent out by a Reverend. Christians have no claim to ultimate morality, and any study of the Bible or history will prove that. The level of hypocrisy of even sending out that tripe about Muslims is nearly overwhelming, and would lead me to laugh if people didn't actually believe they were above the same failings attributed only to Muslims.

Listen, religions around the world hate other religions, and Christianity is HARDLY immune from that. What ever happened to " Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" (Matthew 7:3) We are quick to blame others for what we see as their shortcomings, but are loath to look to ourselves. Christianity is just as insane as Islam is, and the Bible preaches death, destruction, and hate constantly itself. Most Christians prefer to overlook most of it, just as most Muslims prefer to overlook it in the Koran (though the fact that Christians love to cherry-pick passages about homosexuality these days goes only to prove my point, and prove Christians' intellectual laziness).

Religions breed irrationality, since they are based on faith and revelation, two fundamentally irrational concepts. The founders of this nation new that, that's why they used REASON as the basis of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution and NOT the Bible (reasonable Biblical ideals are present, but they are there because of their REASONABLENESS). Even the founders of America had to fight against CHRISTIAN fundamentalists who desired a more fundamentalist Christian nation. If you want to be a "good American", read the Declaration, the Constitution, AND the Bible with reason and logic in mind, you'll be much better off.

If you want rationality in our world, get rid of all religions, not just Islam. Lack of understanding got us wrapped up in this mess, bigoted tripe like this " Can a good Muslim be a good American" only adds to that lack of understanding.

Sean Barker
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